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I feel like I've spent my entire life thinking about "underground" subcultures. In high-school I was really interested in "underground and Canadian hip-hop" (I'm cringing in admitting this) which was probably the first subculture I was part of. Since then I've been a part of and even creator to many.

After 20 years of thinking about the dynamics of subcultures, I can confidently say I **disagree** with almost everything in this _Geeks, Mopes, and Sociopaths_ article:

meaningness.com/geeks-mops-soc

@aaronlevin I've seen people referencing this article before and it's such a clear example of all the problems with "rationalist"-adjacent social commentary. It's clear that the creator hasn't bothered to, like, talk to people or even try to empathize with them, so they dismiss entire swaths of people as "sociopaths"/"muggles"/some other dehumanizing term that dismisses them as shallow unthinking non-entities.

@aysamanra yeah, strong agree. This person looks at community dynamics as a linear progression between two stages which is... a big mood.

Interestingly I do somewhat agree that communities don't scale beyond a certain size, but not because of the author's weird modeling of communities but rather because, imo, nothing involving humans scale beyond a small limit (O(10))

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